Tuesday, February 21, 2006

The Independent gets it just right

See the headline in today's Independent :

David Irving: An anti-Semitic racist who has suffered financial ruin

No matter what you think of the verdict, the paper nailed it.
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Deborah Lipstadt said...

Read History on Trial: My Day in Court with David Irving to see some of the horribly racist things Irving has said in the past.

The judge acknowledged that the man's writings were racist.

Read the verdict.

February 21, 2006 4:34 PM
Uriah Robinson said...

You are being very lenient Douglass.
"What do you think about Black people... on the British [English] cricket team?

Irving replied "That makes me even more queasy".

In Irving's diary.

"I am a Baby Aryan
Not Jewish or Sectarian
I have no plans to marry
An Ape or Rastafarian"

I would think those statements alone might qualify him as a racist.

What I find particularly objectionable is the constant media reference to Irving as "the historian David Irving". Will they next be referring to President Ahmenijad as the "Holocaust researcher"?

February 22, 2006 5:34 AM
Nick Mazonowicz said...

Douglass, do not use sophistry here.

David Irving is a racist plain and simple. His rhyme uses racist imagery (or are you saying that David was using 'ape' in the literal sense').

He has said that he doesn't like black people reading the use and that the respected news reader Trevor MacDonald should only read about muggings.

I can give you more evidence if you want.

February 22, 2006 8:27 PM
Nick Mazonowicz said...

A real racist notes that the 'Aryans' allied themselves with the Japanese and the Italians while fighting the English and the Americans. A real racist rejects Nazism on that basis. Irving does not.

The fact that Irving's beliefs may not be totally self-consistent does not invalidate his racism, since racism is inherently a self-contradictory belief.

am not saying that Irving doesn't incite racial hatred. He constantly incites racial hatred by the nature of his 'work'. What Irving is trying to do is to get Jews to call him 'racist' so that he can gain patronage from foreign and domestic anti-Semites and those who seek to discredit the West.

Can you explain his constant racist comments aimed at blacks and homophobic comments as well? Is he trying to get patronage from foreign and domestic anti-black movements and anti-gay movements?

Or is the fact that if it looks like a duck and walks like a duck, it's probably not a pedigree racing pigeon.

February 23, 2006 9:45 AM
Nick Mazonowicz said...

A real racist notes that the 'Aryans' allied themselves with the Japanese and the Italians while fighting the English and the Americans.

The fact that Irving's beliefs are self-contradictory does not invalidate the fact that he is a racist, since racism is inherently self-contradictory.

What Irving is trying to do is to get Jews to call him 'racist' so that he can gain patronage from foreign and domestic anti-Semites and those who seek to discredit the West.

So what is the explanation for his anti-black comments?

I'm sorry, but if it looks like a duck and sounds like a duck, it's probably not a racing pigeon.

February 23, 2006 9:48 AM
Nick Mazonowicz said...

I'm sorry, but the fact is that David Irving has consistently denigrated people because of their race. That, in my book, makes him a racist.

How do you differentiate between someone who is afraid of Jews because they don't understand the Jews and someone who kidnaps, tortures and brutally murders Jews?

I don't.

February 24, 2006 6:40 PM

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